DHS secretary under oath: Trump didn't say 'sh-hole'

Frederick Owens
January 17, 2018

Nielsen, who was in the room during the meeting, said she just can't seem to remember it happening.

A few minutes later, Sen.

"When the commander in chief speaks or refuses to speak, those words don't dissipate like mist in the air. We were at two meetings together" last week.

Nielsen eventually replied saying, "I do clearly-and I want to be clear on this-abhor violence in all of its forms". "Did he use anything similar to that describing certain countries?"

Nielsen said Trump told the group, "He'd like to move away from a country-based quota system to a merit-based quota system".

Durbin: How did he characterize those countries from Africa?

DURBIN: Did you hear me use profanity? "What was that strong language?"

Nielsen: Uh, let's see. "It is pretty shocking language, and to say, 'I don't recall, ' seems implausible".

"You didn't hear me use profanity", Durbin shot back. She pointed to the case of Abdurasul Hasanovich Juraboev, an Uzbekistan-born man who was admitted to the United States in the diversity visa lottery in 2011. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., had used strong and tough language in Thursday's meeting. Durbin then clarifi ed the context of what Graham said.

The Beast also noted that "the report's release appears to have been timed" in conjunction with the Trump administration's efforts to "to end two USA visa programs as a condition of congressional immigration negotiations". It would also provide $2.7 billion for border security, including $1.6 billion for construction of a wall on the southern border and $1.1 billion for new technology. Durbin said such a request was unrealistic.

"You were in the room, you're under oath", Leahy reminded Nielsen on Tuesday.

Durbin: I'm not going to ask you to say those words here.

"Anything is possible, yes, ma'am", Nielsen said. Trump and some Republicans have said the senators' agreement is insufficient.

Booker used the full 10 minutes alloted for questions as the hearing, but Nieslen was given time after he finished to respond.

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Trump has come under fire for reportedly referring to Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as "s***hole countries". Also: Lots of people were swearing, so how could she possibly remember what curse word the President used in particular????

Neilsen: The conversation was very impassioned.

Notice the "I heard him" construction that Nielsen is using here.

Leahy: That's not the question.

"Have we opened an account that Mexico can put the money in to pay for it?" I know the comments were made.

Earlier, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont asked Neilsen if Norway was predominantly white.

When President Trump spoke by phone with Sen.

"I am not aware". Now, I don't know where that guy went.

"How do you mean pay sir?"

Nielsen's answer is bad either way you cut it. "There are a variety of ways".

The report was conducted on the orders of Trump, who in one of his first executive orders requested USA law enforcement to step up border control in order to enhance national security.

"The fact pattern is clear of the threat in this country", Booker said.

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